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5000 miles with HHO assistance. Update.

Monday, December 1, 2008 14:08
Posted in category Hydrogen

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Time for an update on the original cell I started talking about on this blog. The one fitted to my 97 Chevy Cavalier.

Having passed the 5000 mile mark since installing this home brewed HHO cell my results are as follows.

I have been keeping a log of all my gasoline purchases along with mileage and am happy to report that over this 5 month period and 5283 miles of mixed driving my mpg has improved from a baseline of approximately 34 mpg to an average of 48 mpg.

Also, on a recent 300 mile trip from Panama City to David near the Costa Rica border, I achieved approximately 67 mpg cruising on the highway at a steady 70. Only a few towns along the way where I needed to slow down, mostly good 4 lane open road.
I say approximately because this was a single trip and I used a different gas station when filling so the figure cannot be as accurate as a long term test.

Measuring the output and amperage draw on the cell after this length of time showed a slight drop in output. Unfortunately the cell is a sealed unit so I am unable to check the condition of the internals without wrecking it. When 1st installed I was getting about 1 lpm at 12 amps, but I increased the amps to 18 hot after a running in period and was getting 1.6 lpm of HHO. This has dropped off over the 5000 miles to 1.4 lpm at the same 18 amps.

I’m currently running the system with reversed polarity in an attempt to clean off any buildup on the plates. The NaOH solution in the system has remained reasonably clean but I expect that to change with the reversed current as any buildup on the plates will go back into solution.

I also took out a spark plug to check on the condition. The color of the plug is a good indicator of the mixture of fuel and air. Light tan is correct, A rich mix will make the plug darker and a white plug is a sign that the mix is too weak.

Here are 2 plugs for comparison. The one on the left was fitted new when I installed the HHO system, and the one on the right is one of the old ones I replaced at that time.

As you can see, the new plug is marginally lighter in color but still well within the safe zone regarding mix. Proof that the gains come from improving the burning of the fuel rather than weakening the mixture by overdoing the adjustments to the sensors.

Overall I’m more than happy with the results. Even though the cost of gasoline has dropped temporarily it’s proved to me that the technology works and will pay back even better in the future when gas goes back up. However, it’s not a plug and play system as many still selling garbage on Ebay make out. The system needs to be constantly checked for water and amperage draw. The sensor adjustments take a considerable amount of time to get right as the computer is a slow learner.

For a hobbyist with time to spend it is definitely entertaining. Learning about electronics, chemistry and physics as well as the pleasure in driving past more gas stations. For John/Jane average motorist I feel that it is still too much hassle. After all, half the motorists in the world are barely able to fill the gas tank without assistance.

Bypass the instant magic fixes and W4G systems that are being promoted by scammers. There are a number of good people supplying parts and kits now on Ebay for hobbyists at sensible prices. Check out some of the HHO forums and learn the basics before wasting money on junk. Most importantly, have fun and be safe.

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How to build a cheap HHO generator using kitchenware pt3

Thursday, November 13, 2008 21:52
Posted in category Hydrogen

A quick update on progress with this cell.

The kitchen ladles turned out to be impresive quality, Indian SS is way better than I expected.

Here’s a pic of the surface of a ladle that has been subjected to over 48 hours use, alongside a new one.

The 48 hours were at about 3 amps, temperatures up to about 180F, and as… Continue reading | 2 Comments

Will Adgitise help cover my hosting costs? I hope so :)

Wednesday, November 5, 2008 10:57
Posted in category Featured

Why do we bloggers waste screen real estate on affiliate ads? Waiting month after month to reach some ridiculous figure for a payout?

I’ve tried Amazon, Clickbank and several others with little success. Goggle earns a bit as the ads are somewhat targeted, enough to cover my hosting bills most of the time. Direct sales of ad space also helps.

Well, I have found a company where I have the potential to… Continue reading | 8 Comments

How to build a cheap HHO generator using kitchenware pt2

Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:29
Posted in category Hydrogen

Voila!!……… We now have 4 kitchen ladles assembled as in pt 1 of this article. Lets go make some gas :) Do this bit in a well ventilated area or outdoors.

Get a 2.5 litre plastic coke bottle, pour out the coke and mix with good Panamanian rum with plenty of ice. Save this for later :) Now hack off the top part of the bottle with a knife or scissors… Continue reading | 4 Comments

How to build a cheap HHO generator using kitchenware pt 1

Sunday, October 26, 2008 11:27
Posted in category Hydrogen

While wandering through our local street market today, I spotted these kitchen ladles. Ding ding……. Stainless steel. Checked em with a magnet to make sure :)  1Buck apiece so bought 4 for a test. Probably low grade SS, 302 or 304 but worth a try at the price.

The ladle part is almost 4″ diameter so that gives about 12 square inches of surface per plate (pi x r x r… Continue reading | 4 Comments

Added an HHO Forum

Thursday, October 23, 2008 22:24
Posted in category Uncategorized

Back to blogging and building HHO generators, instead of swaying around on the ocean waves installing em :)

Changed the theme, I prefer light colours. The old theme was too hard on these old eyes. I hope you like it too.

I’ve also added a forum. Comments are less than practical for discussion so you now have two choices. A quick comment if that’s all that’s needed, or an opportunity to have… Continue reading | 4 Comments

Hydroxy ebooks and future direction

Monday, October 6, 2008 14:22
Posted in category Hydrogen

Water4gas is a term that has become synonomous with Hydroxy, or  run your car on water conversion kits.

These ebooks show you how to convert a regular gasoline engine car into a Hydroxy Hybrid  and claim that you can improve gas mileage by up to 100% - effectively doubling your gas mileage.

Like most marketing claims, these figures need to be taken with a pinch of salt. I am actively… Continue reading | 2 Comments

I screwed up

Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:30
Posted in category Hydrogen

Hey, we can’t all be perfect all the time, even a genius makes wrong assumptions (rarely)  lol

My theory in the last post, that an even # of plates would make each plate hold either positive or negative polarity on both sides turned out to be wrong. Thanks to a friend in fuel-saver.org Forum for pointing out the error. Lots of good info over there.

Anyways, I tested with odd… Continue reading | 1 Comment

Tero type cell with separate outputs for Hydrogen & Oxygen

Monday, September 22, 2008 8:44
Posted in category Hydrogen

An update on my last post, which will hopefully clarify some of the details, using small tubes over each plate in a Tero cell to separate the 2 gasses.

I use the same method of output tubes for my own fully flooded Tero type cells, the only addition is the membranes between 2 thinner neoprene gaskets to separate the gas and 2 recirculation reservoirs.

The tubes are cut to slot over the… Continue reading

How to build a cell with seperate Hydrogen and Oxygen outputs

Sunday, September 7, 2008 13:39
Posted in category Hydrogen

Here’s an idea for modifying a tero cell to seperate Hydrogen and Oxygen.

It’s based on the fully flooded tero cell design I’m currently using for diesel generators, but reduced to 6″ X 6″ for car type amperages. Should run comfortably between 12 and 20 amps.  My diesel units are 12″ X 12″ with 12… Continue reading | 4 Comments

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